Charter schools are firmly public entities even as debates about whether the schools are 鈥渟tate actors鈥� and can operate as religious institutions heat up, according to the chief national advocate for the independently run schools.
Nina Rees, CEO of the National Alliance of Public 91制片厂视频 Schools, sat down with 91制片厂视频 Week on July 26 to discuss the current landscape for charter schools, including new data that shows charter students outperformed their peers in traditional public schools, growing momentum in Republican-led states for private school choice policies, and a recent high-profile court case that asked whether charter schools are state actors?
On that last question, Rees is confident.
鈥淓very statute written about charter schools calls us public schools,鈥� she said. 鈥淭he reason we can tap into and are able to get Title I dollars and local tax dollars that follow kids to our schools is because we are constructed as a public school.鈥�
The past few years have included a number of major developments for charter schools, at the same time as they鈥檝e receded a bit from the political spotlight as private-school choice policies that allow more parents to use public money to send their children to private schools have advanced.
Last July, the Biden administration released stricter rules for the federal 91制片厂视频 Schools Program, which provides grants to fund charter schools in their first three years of operation.
Rees and the national alliance opposed the first draft of those rules, which included a requirement that charter school applicants get a letter of support from local school districts and that a new charter complete a community impact analysis that proved it wouldn鈥檛 contribute to segregation. She argued that the new rules created too much red tape for aspiring charter school operators.
The Biden administration ultimately released less strict finalized rules, though they still required new charters to prove they aren鈥檛 tied to for-profit management organizations and complete the impact analysis about segregation.
In June, the Center for Research on 91制片厂视频al Outcomes (CREDO) at Stanford University released its third study on charter schools, which showed that charter students now outperform their traditional public school peers. The report was a major turning point, as CREDO鈥檚 data from the early 2000s showed that charter schools produced worse outcomes.
Finally, Rees has had to grapple with ongoing challenges to the public nature of charter schools.
In June, the Oklahoma Statewide Virtual 91制片厂视频 School Board voted 3-2 to approve the nation鈥檚 first religious charter school, a decision that will likely spark a legal challenge. A few weeks later, the U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear a case that would have clarified whether publicly funded charter schools are considered state actors subject to constitutional requirements after a North Carolina charter school tried to require girls to wear skirts.
This interview has been edited for length and clarity.
The latest report from CREDO showed that charters outperform traditional public schools. That鈥檚 a big change from the first report in 2009. What do you think happened?
I do think authorizers have become tougher, and the expense of becoming tougher is they鈥檙e not as innovative or as open to programs that you probably would have approved 10 or 20 years ago. Authorizers have become stronger.
[Charter] networks have also become stronger. As time has gone on, they have improved what they do. They鈥檝e improved their hiring practices. They鈥檙e so numbers-driven and data-driven that they are able to see when there鈥檚 a gap and address it in real time. As they鈥檝e grown, they鈥檝e been able to learn from their mistakes. Those two factors are probably the most important.
In a state like Texas, if you are a high-achieving, high-performing network, the process to renew you is faster. So there have been policies like that that have had an impact. I do think some of the work on closing bad schools鈥擨 know it鈥檚 noisy鈥攂ut it鈥檚 the fastest way to also improve by closing your poor performers or folding those schools under the governance of a high-performing school.
There鈥檚 been a lot of buzz around private school choice. With all the attention on those policies, where do you see charter schools fitting in?
In most of the places where they have had improvements around [education savings accounts, or ESAs, which provide families with per-pupil funds to pay for private school tuition, tutoring, and other education expenses], they鈥檝e also done something for charter schools ... The average legislator who鈥檚 thinking about choice wants to have as many options as possible and they鈥檙e not saying just private.
Is there anything you鈥檇 like to see from policymakers to address concerns around transparency and accountability in private school choice programs?
We don鈥檛 have a position as the national alliance, but as a taxpaying citizen, I鈥檇 love to know where the money is going and what it鈥檚 being used for. In those instances where the money goes to the parent for them to pick whatever they want out of a menu of options, whether it鈥檚 tutoring or something else, that鈥檚 where good information will make a difference.
Last year, the Biden administration released stricter regulations for the 91制片厂视频 Schools Program. How have those changes impacted new charter schools?
By and large, it has not had a dampening impact on the number of schools and types of schools that are applying. We haven鈥檛 heard anyone say this is impossible to manage. With that said, though, we have made a lot of resources available to the sector to help them with the application process.
Down the road, [we鈥檒l] have to see if they created certain incentives and certain structures that disadvantage a particular school. If there鈥檚 a preference around racial diversity, you might in effect do certain things to attract certain types of leaders. We love diverse-by-design schools, don鈥檛 get us wrong, but we also don鈥檛 think that having schools that are culturally affirming or schools that are meant to be in a neighborhood that is predominantly Black should then bend over backward just to attract kids from different parts of D.C., for instance.
Earlier this year, the Oklahoma virtual charter school board approved a religious charter school. How do you see that decision changing the landscape for charter schools going forward?
It鈥檚 just one application that鈥檚 been approved but the school hasn鈥檛 opened yet. I don鈥檛 know that I would draw too many conclusions on how that鈥檚 going to change the landscape. The attorney general of Oklahoma does not even support this. So we鈥檙e watching it carefully. We don鈥檛 think charter schools can teach religion because we鈥檙e public schools and that is what we鈥檙e going to stick to for now until something changes and all of a sudden public schools can teach religion.
Court cases have brought up questions about charter schools鈥� role as public or private entities. Where do you see charter schools sitting on that spectrum?
Every statute written about charter schools calls us public schools. The reason we tap into and are able to get Title I dollars and local tax dollars that follow kids to our schools is because we are constructed as a public school.
We are a state actor for the purposes of the federal Constitution, which means our kids have the same rights as other public school kids have when it comes to being admitted to our schools and that our schools cannot discriminate against them.
The one common thing in the [charter school] movement is this notion that we wanted to reimagine public education and make it better. Our organization鈥檚 mission is that, in fact.
What is top of mind for you as charter schools enter the next few years?
Our personal goal is to make all public schools like charter schools in terms of the autonomy that teachers and principals get in exchange for achievements and that all schools ultimately become schools of choice. In terms of the immediate future, there are three things we do need to be careful with.
One of them is the fiscal cliff. It鈥檚 already starting in some places to the extent the district hired a lot of teachers that they have to let go or made investments that it can鈥檛 sustain because whatever they invested in is a recurring expense. The whole notion of charters taking money away from public schools is going to come up in a lot of these communities鈥攕o we have to be ready to fight back that narrative more than ever before.
The other thing is this notion of our public identity is going to be challenged. I don鈥檛 know if Oklahoma is the first. I don鈥檛 know if the religious liberties camp has other cases, but they are certainly trying to leverage the current makeup of the Supreme Court to file more cases. So that narrative is going to continue, and certainly, we will stand firmly by the fact that we are public.
The last piece is the disruption of AI. So as innovators, we do need to seize on what this is and reimagine our schools and how we can leverage technology.
